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The Comic Book


I have not seen this info before so it's either some new info or "where was I?" info. I don't think it's spoilerish... it just adds to some theories I think.


The men tracking Desmond are in a polar region. Where polar bears live.

So again we ask, "Does this explain the polar bear in the first season?"

"Well, the Arctic is the only place where polar bears live," Cuse says. "And polar bears will be back this season."

Which brings us back to that season-one episode titled "Special." Walt is reading a comic book in which you see a polar bear and a dome-like structure with electro-magnetic symbols around it. The dome is surrounded by snow.

The book resembles a 1986 DC Comics graphic novel called "Watchmen," the first of its genre to win a coveted sci-fi Hugo Award. (Now we might know where Hurley got his first name.)

In "Watchmen," one of the main characters is Ozymandias. Think of the stone foot in "Lost's" season finale and consider Shelley's poem "Ozymandias" and its "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone."

Like his poetic namesake, the comic book character Ozymandias thinks he knows what's best for the world. He also happens to have a getaway in the Antarctic: a dome with a tropical world inside.

There's a 1980-ish computer, much like the one in "Lost," in "Watchmen," and a scene on raft with sharks circling.

The graphic novel centers on good and bad, belief in your own potential and psychic powers. There's also a lot of talk about mankind destroying the world — either by damaging the environment or through nuclear war.


 



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Very interesting IR...

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I'm so glad to see someone finally talking about the the earth with a dome at one of it's poles in the comic strip. Everyone talks about the polar bear, but never that. And the next one is the guy in the bed. The alien typ looking guy with all the stuff hooked up to him - what's THAT about. And then the next thing you see is Michaels drawing of the guy in the body cast lying in the hospital bed. It's got to be connected.


Now, someone theorized that they could somehow be in iceland.  There are parts of it that aren't icey.  But with the staue thing, what about the Stonehenge type rock at the top of the cliff ?   


Also, I never see anyone point out the fact that yes, Walt was reading the comic, but the comic came from Hurley.  



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Here's a poem by Percy Bysshe Shelley it's what the "Ozymandias" stuff is refered from.


I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said:—Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp'd on these lifeless things,
The hand that mock'd them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.


 


Now here's one (interpetation poem I think) by Horace Smith



In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows: –
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." – The City's gone, –
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, – and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragments huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.


There are some interesting things related to Lost ...



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Lion the one thing about that stuff you listed that I do know is that the picture of the guy in the body cast was Michael's take on hiomself after he was run down, and he was in that shape.

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Here's a line I thought interesting out of the second of the poems I posted.


The site of this forgotten Babylon.


is this a sign of what the island is in terms of "never leaving" kind of thing?


 



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Wow, those were some quick and terrific responses! *impressed*

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Wow, those were some quick and terrific responses! *impressed*


****blows on his knuckles**** Huh...didn't think I had it in me did ya??

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Here's a poem by Percy Bysshe Shelley it's what the "Ozymandias" stuff is refered from.


I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said:—Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp'd on these lifeless things,
The hand that mock'd them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.


 


Now here's one (interpetation poem I think) by Horace Smith



In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows: –
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." – The City's gone, –
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, – and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragments huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.


There are some interesting things related to Lost ...






I think that may be the same statue I have referred to a few times. UGH .... I need to go back and find the link again.....



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Lion I have a faint idea of the statue you are efering to, and I'm soory if I didn't put 1 + 1 together before this.

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Oh no, that's no big deal, and it may not even be the same statue. but this is the one I was talking about.


Greco-Roman origin:



  • The statue dates to Greco-Roman times. The sandal appears Greco-Roman and the statue is in that style.

  • The giant Greek statue of the Greek god Helios,known as 'The Colossus of Rhodes' was destroyed due to an earthquake in 224 BCE. All that remained standing was its legs from the knees down. According to scholars, it was of a similar size to the Statue of Liberty. (Charlie uses the phrase "colossal joke.")


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Oh, here's another interesting tidbit on that theory....


  • It is further reference to the Ancient Greek god Apollo, like the chocolate bar - this could be a later theme, even with a new hatch inside it - each hatch seems to serve a different purpose, not just human experimentation like the Pearl seems to do. This parallels the Hanso Foundation's projects.

  • A close mythological connection between Helios and Apollo exists.


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    Oh, here's another interesting tidbit on that theory....


  • It is further reference to the Ancient Greek god Apollo, like the chocolate bar - this could be a later theme, even with a new hatch inside it - each hatch seems to serve a different purpose, not just human experimentation like the Pearl seems to do. This parallels the Hanso Foundation's projects.
  • A close mythological connection between Helios and Apollo exists.


  • What does that mean?? Is there one of the hatch entry areas in the 4 toe statue??

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    Well, not so sure about that part. Some people tried to say there was another hatch in the foot. I don't think that's possible since it's not connected to anything.

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    Well, not so sure about that part. Some people tried to say there was another hatch in the foot. I don't think that's possible since it's not connected to anything.


    Underwater???.... if it goes down far enough the tunnel could very well bring you back under the island.

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    Well, but they sid it's just kinda sitting there. It's not physically connected, just sort of perched up there...

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    I see what you're saying Lion, but what I mean is if you were to see a door on the back side of the statue... it could very well lead down a set of stairs then into a hall that leads inland to the island. maybe it was connected at one time, but over the years it eroded and fell away.

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    This is true. I was just going off of the stuff they were discussing on Lostpedia. Gee, I'm glad I'm not like a fanatic or anything

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    snootch2danootch wrote:



    Here's a line I thought interesting out of the second of the poems I posted.


    The site of this forgotten Babylon.


    is this a sign of what the island is in terms of "never leaving" kind of thing? 






    That's what stood out for me, too.



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    The Babylon statment does bring some ideas for a deeper thought about the show in general, and not just the Island, but it may take a bit to get things together in my mind so i can post them.

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