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I cried, "Oh, Lady Midnight, I fear that you grow old, the stars eat your body and the wind makes you cold." "If we cry now," she said, "it will just be ignored."

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RE: s4e7...... ji yeon


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRaieyN77UI

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OK here's my random thoughts from this last episode.

I thought it was again better than the early seson stuff, and so it'll keep me around. I have thought about this over a cpouple times, and here's one thing I've come up with that has some real bearing.

Sayid working for Ben. We've all thought about why and how he could come to work for Ben. Easy now that I look at this as a bigger picture. He's (and also Jin I believe) will come to work for Ben as an offering of sorts when the ship ends up without anyone to pilot it or something like that. Ben is going to indeed show up as the "good guy" by being the one resposible for getting them off the island. Sayid will offer himself up as a henchman or something like that in return for the safe return of the rest of the losties that end up off the island.


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I cried, "Oh, Lady Midnight, I fear that you grow old, the stars eat your body and the wind makes you cold." "If we cry now," she said, "it will just be ignored."

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poor juliet will end up with ben

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I don't thkn she's going to get off the island. She's either going to die because of Ben's obsession with her or she's die in a fight to help the Losties get off the island. Knowing that she's lost so much of herself because of her time on the island. Making it her final retribution so to speak.

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I cried, "Oh, Lady Midnight, I fear that you grow old, the stars eat your body and the wind makes you cold." "If we cry now," she said, "it will just be ignored."

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everyone talks about fighting and battles but that's just not LOST.... closest thing was getting the women from the beach....

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I'm thinking more along the lines of a boat to boat conflict maybe or the people on the frieghter (the capt and his lacky's) try to over-run the camp where Locke is and for whatever reason Jule's knows that they aren't going to save them, but also that Ben is really the only way off the island, and so she goes to help save him, and dies in the process. I just don't see her getting back for some reason. I'd like her to, but it's not going to happen. If she did I think that the connection between her and Jack is getting strong, and that they would've been shown together at some point in the FF's by now.

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Desmond_Pen wrote:

 

  1. Bryan Says:

    OMG. Thats all I can even say right now.

    Anyone catch the date written on that stone at the end?

  2. mikefrommaine Says:

    The stone said September 22, 2004.

 



Yeah pretty cool huh? So is Jin really dead or does Sun have to pretend that he is dead while he is still on the island?? confused

 

 



I think that Island Jin's conscience never linked with his past self's conscience, so he has no way of warning himself like Des does.

I don't know if his past self ever gets on the plane, which would alter the present. (after something happens to him before he can be rescued and he dies.)

So Sun is alone, and confused does past Jin live and doesn't know about his baby? Sun's present self is alive , so doesn't change the past Sun's course.



-- Edited by Desmond_Pen at 03:48, 2008-03-15

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The freighter can't get to the island, so Ben must get the "Oceanic 6" off of the Island.

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I cried, "Oh, Lady Midnight, I fear that you grow old, the stars eat your body and the wind makes you cold." "If we cry now," she said, "it will just be ignored."

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Desmond_Pen wrote:

The freighter can't get to the island, so Ben must get the "Oceanic 6" off of the Island.



the only way the freighter people seem to be able to get to the island is thru the time vortex via helecopter...3-4 people invading at a time can't do too much to fight... and the crew doesn't look like it is much bigger than 10-12 and dwindling.... i don't think they will even bother with locke's crew unless ben stays there... and ben will get away... he's a free man now. or, miles will give the big lie and say that he killed ben.  ben lives thru this. and no battle will occur.

 



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LionQueen wrote:

Interesting - the last year of the dragon was the metal dragon -

The qualities associated with metal are unyieldingness, rigidity, persistence, strength and determination. The metal person is controlling, ambitious, forceful and set in their ways as metal is very strong; and they are self-reliant and prefer to handle their problems alone. The metal person is also materialistic, business oriented and good at organization and stability. However the metal person can also appreciate luxury and enjoy the good things in life. Just as metal can conduct electricity, the Metal person has strong impulses and generative powers and can bring about changes and transformations for those who come into contact with them. Metal is believed to govern the lungs, nose and skin. The negative emotion associated with metal is grief, while the positive emotion is courage.




i'm a metal Sheep

 



I'm an earth monkey. giggle.gif

 



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If Ben planted the plane in the ocean, then Widmores boat would probably want to kill Ben and then get the rest back home and to their families, or whatever.

BUT if Charles Widmore planted that plane at the bottom of the ocean, then he ecpects his crew to kill Ben and then kill all of them, even after Ben is dead. If Abbadon works for Widmore, then we pretty much have our answer because he insisted there were no survivors. I believe Abbadon works for Widmore.

*I also believe the Hanso Foundation might really belong to Widmore at this point. shrug.gif


And there have always been battles  in Lost, the whole show has been one long battle. Battle to survive the smoke monster, battle to survive the others, battle to survive each other. I mean, what's a gun for if there's no battle?

What's not Lost is to rule out something, because pretty much anything can happen. That being said, 'anything' isn't to say that Lost doesn't have coherency. It operates on it's own established gamerules.


 


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LionQueen wrote:

KateisLost wrote:


LionQueen wrote:

Interesting - the last year of the dragon was the metal dragon -

The qualities associated with metal are unyieldingness, rigidity, persistence, strength and determination. The metal person is controlling, ambitious, forceful and set in their ways as metal is very strong; and they are self-reliant and prefer to handle their problems alone. The metal person is also materialistic, business oriented and good at organization and stability. However the metal person can also appreciate luxury and enjoy the good things in life. Just as metal can conduct electricity, the Metal person has strong impulses and generative powers and can bring about changes and transformations for those who come into contact with them. Metal is believed to govern the lungs, nose and skin. The negative emotion associated with metal is grief, while the positive emotion is courage.




i'm a metal Sheep




I'm an earth monkey. giggle.gif



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I cried, "Oh, Lady Midnight, I fear that you grow old, the stars eat your body and the wind makes you cold." "If we cry now," she said, "it will just be ignored."

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surviving is not a battle.. it is a meeting of the minds, and a joining of wills... we are here to work together not to continually fight each other. put down the guns, put down the ego and learn to work together.. be humble and helpful and life becomes so much easier..... and in the process we become better and happier people...


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I cried, "Oh, Lady Midnight, I fear that you grow old, the stars eat your body and the wind makes you cold." "If we cry now," she said, "it will just be ignored."

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I am the WORLDS greatest Living LOSTIGATOR and spoilerGATOR!!

Friday, March 14, 2008

My REVIEw of Episode 7 - Gee ON!!

YES people WHO love lost I am still HERE!! Ha ha hA!!I have a REVIEW and later MORE find of expansive Impotence!!

- THE episode TITLES was a LITTLE stange and I have NO idea what is MEANS!!
- The Island HAS cured Jin of is inability to SPEAK english
- SUN got VERY fat!!
- JIN went to the WRONG maternity WARD!!
- WHY did the CAB driver drive oFF with the PANDA bear!!Who will PAY the FARE!!Crazy!!
- Why DID sun go with HURLEY to his dads Grave!!
- Why DID the EVIL hanso go fishing WITH Gin!!
- Why IS there are LARGE tomoato KETCHUP mark on the wall on the Freyter!!
- It was GOOD to see my CLONE theory being proved correct again in THAT the orchid STATION had cloned Mikey!!
- Regina eyes DONT work and SHE has to read her Books UPside DOWN!!
- It WAS good to See Regina Dive in the Water to go and VISIT the LookING Grass station!!
- I could NOT belive the CONTINUTY error of the MAN they used to PLAY Jin when sun was Having her twins!!
- WHo is the PostMAN on the boat who is DELIVERING mail to Desmond and Sayid!!
- It was GOOD to see Frank Lapdancer fly off to the OTHER island!!
- Why was Sayid told ABOUT the rusty Captain!!

I will HAVE more mammoth CLUES later from MY close examination OF the episode looking at it FRAME by frame with my Night vision googles and using a SPATULA!!



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I cried, "Oh, Lady Midnight, I fear that you grow old, the stars eat your body and the wind makes you cold." "If we cry now," she said, "it will just be ignored."

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I am the WORLDS greatest Living LOSTIGATOR and spoilerGATOR!!

Sunday, March 16, 2008

THe MISFIT dares to ASK!! WHY cant the PEOPLE on the Island SEE the Freytor!!

YES it is I the MISFIt BACK again!!I Purchased SOME new XRAY vision Googles and USED it to watch Gee On FRAME by FRAME!!

I noticed SOMETHING that NO other Losigator HAVE found!!People LIKE docfarts, dorkufo and thefailsection HAVE all Failed Miserably!!

Here WE can see the island IN the background BUT why CANT the people on the ISLAND see it!!Is the BOAT invisible!!

ALSO why IS there an AXE in the BOAT!!DOes someONE have superPOWER!! or is IT something LIKE the fillerdelphia Experiments!!

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lockesladyness wrote:

surviving is not a battle.. it is a meeting of the minds, and a joining of wills... we are here to work together not to continually fight each other. put down the guns, put down the ego and learn to work together.. be humble and helpful and life becomes so much easier..... and in the process we become better and happier people...



That may be true, but we were talking about Lost, and in Lost, everything has been a battle. Since the moment they crashed on the island. They've battled each other, the others, the monster the island itself ... we might not like the ugliness and harshness of it, but there it is.

We struggle even  in birth.  The woman grunt and groans under the struggle to get this kid out and the kid is fighting to ... well, to get out or to stay in, I'm not sure ... but at any rate....

And to be honest, whether we want to admit it or not, we can sugar coat it and try to make it look cute and cuddly and pretty, but the plain truth is that we all have struggles and battles in our lives. Even the apostle Paul battled with the man wihtin himself, the two opposing sides. One that knew and wanted to do good and the other that knew and wanted to do evil, and he battled against that evil inclination all the way to death.

Scripture even tells us to be strong and take courage, to not be surprised whne we fall into diverse temptations. Why? because struggle, battle, striving is part of life. It's part of the world that we created. How did we create it? When we chose to submit to the evil inclination. The church calls this the flesh, or carnal man.

And this is one very very very strong thread throughout the entire show. Bernard joked when he said to jin " I guess that makes us the good guys. " But yet, Ben said "We're the good guys. " Why?

Are they the good guys? Are we the good guys? Or maybe good is not so clearcut. maybe the monster that we see in the other person is the same monster that lives in all of us and the same one that we fight daily. The same one that can do the same thing to that cat that Amira rescued from that box. She said, we all are capabable of doing it, but she would not be that. She made a choice not to be. Does that mean that that person is not in her somewhere ready to come out should she choose another path?

And we have to come to terms with the fact that not everything that we struggle with is some evil battle that we should try to ignore and pretend is not there. They make us learn and they make us stronger. They teach us how to compromise, when not to compromise and to appreciate other people. When two differences come together, they can make something different altogether from each indivual one. Why should we be afraid of that or pretend it's not there?

 



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I am the WORLDS greatest Living LOSTIGATOR and spoilerGATOR!!

Friday, March 14, 2008

My REVIEw of Episode 7 - Gee ON!!

YES people WHO love lost I am still HERE!! Ha ha hA!!I have a REVIEW and later MORE find of expansive Impotence!!

- THE episode TITLES was a LITTLE stange and I have NO idea what is MEANS!!
- The Island HAS cured Jin of is inability to SPEAK english
- SUN got VERY fat!!
- JIN went to the WRONG maternity WARD!!
- WHY did the CAB driver drive oFF with the PANDA bear!!Who will PAY the FARE!!Crazy!!
- Why DID sun go with HURLEY to his dads Grave!!
- Why DID the EVIL hanso go fishing WITH Gin!!
- Why IS there are LARGE tomoato KETCHUP mark on the wall on the Freyter!!
- It was GOOD to see my CLONE theory being proved correct again in THAT the orchid STATION had cloned Mikey!!
- Regina eyes DONT work and SHE has to read her Books UPside DOWN!!
- It WAS good to See Regina Dive in the Water to go and VISIT the LookING Grass station!!
- I could NOT belive the CONTINUTY error of the MAN they used to PLAY Jin when sun was Having her twins!!
- WHo is the PostMAN on the boat who is DELIVERING mail to Desmond and Sayid!!
- It was GOOD to see Frank Lapdancer fly off to the OTHER island!!
- Why was Sayid told ABOUT the rusty Captain!!

I will HAVE more mammoth CLUES later from MY close examination OF the episode looking at it FRAME by frame with my Night vision googles and using a SPATULA!!

 



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lockesladyness wrote:

 

I am the WORLDS greatest Living LOSTIGATOR and spoilerGATOR!!

Sunday, March 16, 2008

THe MISFIT dares to ASK!! WHY cant the PEOPLE on the Island SEE the Freytor!!

YES it is I the MISFIt BACK again!!I Purchased SOME new XRAY vision Googles and USED it to watch Gee On FRAME by FRAME!!

I noticed SOMETHING that NO other Losigator HAVE found!!People LIKE docfarts, dorkufo and thefailsection HAVE all Failed Miserably!!

Here WE can see the island IN the background BUT why CANT the people on the ISLAND see it!!Is the BOAT invisible!!

ALSO why IS there an AXE in the BOAT!!DOes someONE have superPOWER!! or is IT something LIKE the fillerdelphia Experiments!!

Regina-Jumps.jpg
crazyaxe.jpeg

crazyaxe.jpeg

 



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That may be true, but we were talking about Lost, and in Lost, everything has been a battle. Since the moment they crashed on the island. They've battled each other, the others, the monster the island itself ... we might not like the ugliness and harshness of it, but there it is.

We struggle even  in birth.  The woman grunt and groans under the struggle to get this kid out and the kid is fighting to ... well, to get out or to stay in, I'm not sure ... but at any rate....
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i guess when i picture a battle i see people killing and maiming each other by the hundreds... so when i say that this hasn't happened on LOST that is what i mean. there are struggles in life. it is what gives us our character and strength. some people battle life... i can't.... and i forget that others prefer living this way.  the LOSTies have fought but not battled, in my eyes.... is it sugar-coating or just another interpretation? 
there is a struggle and pain in child-birth. i think it was put there so that we realize that we are all separate people, yet together we can make a difference. and together is what we need to learn to be...



And to be honest, whether we want to admit it or not, we can sugar coat it and try to make it look cute and cuddly and pretty, but the plain truth is that we all have struggles and battles in our lives. Even the apostle Paul battled with the man wihtin himself, the two opposing sides. One that knew and wanted to do good and the other that knew and wanted to do evil, and he battled against that evil inclination all the way to death.

Scripture even tells us to be strong and take courage, to not be surprised whne we fall into diverse temptations. Why? because struggle, battle, striving is part of life. It's part of the world that we created. How did we create it? When we chose to submit to the evil inclination. The church calls this the flesh, or carnal man.

we need to learn how to work together for the common good... not at odds with each other or disagreeing all the time. in paul's fight with god, he learned how to become the greatest spokesperson and example for christianity.. and he endured his hardships thru his strong belief and the help and prayers of others... (i thank god every time i think of you...) remember too hat it has been us who created the struggle. we can end it too. compromise does build our lives.... and our character.

And we have to come to terms with the fact that not everything that we struggle with is some evil battle that we should try to ignore and pretend is not there. They make us learn and they make us stronger. They teach us how to compromise, when not to compromise and to appreciate other people. When two differences come together, they can make something different altogether from each indivual one. Why should we be afraid of that or pretend it's not there?

i know i am aware of the struggles in life yet deal with them, not as a major battle, but as an oppotunity to learn and grow. and i am thankful for them. these do teach me something... and i will continue to learn and grow until the day i die... always aware, always learning, always willing to compromise and go on. life is not scary, or a battle to me....




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