Pre-Island

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Pre-Island

Sir Snootch · "Gamers don't sleep. They just nap between levels."

Kate---Hiding from the police

Shannon----???Playing reindeer games with Boone???

EKO---becoming a preist

lockesladyness · Date: Jun 18, 2006

cindy... stationed there???

-- Edited by snootch2danootch at 17:21, 2006-06-20

Sir Snootch · "Gamers don't sleep. They just nap between levels."

We now know thata Eko was there as a priest. Working in a church, and working as a lapdog for a higher up priest.

Oh yeah...Shannon was playing house with the Aussie boy, in hopes that Boone would throw some money ay her.

GrayLensman · See you in another life!!!

I don't think we have any reason to think that Desmond was ever in Australia, do we? He was out sailing in the solo world girdling race when his boat was swept to the island by a storm.

voltsandamps · Gods new Mod.

I am not sure either way, a round the world race would probably track norh of australia and he may have stopped in there for provisions or water and fresh food. Anytime you are spending considerable time at sea fresh water is at a premium and fresh food too.

Sir Snootch · "Gamers don't sleep. They just nap between levels."

I think the only thing with Des that is for sure is that his time there was well before they got there, and that he was on his boat up until he came to the island. Volts i agree that a stop for water if nothing else would be a must at some point.

lockesladyness · Date: Jun 20, 2006

think danielle was ever in australia????

voltsandamps · Gods new Mod.

There is a system that you can buy for long distance boat racing whereby you store your fresh water in stainless steel barrels and the kit comes with a vacuum pump that hooks to the barrels, air is what makes the water go bad and taste funny. The barrels come in several sizes, i suppose depending on your crew size. You can release the vacuum, draw off say a day's supply of water and restore the vacuum. There also are several different gadjets to keep food fresh, bread and/or biscuits are a problem, and any kind of meat products if you don't have refridgeration on board. We have one called "sealameal" which works really well. My wife uses ours almost every day, sometimes several time a day, depending on what's cooking, mostly to avoid freezer burn but sometimes in the 'fridge too. It too depends on creating a vacuum inside the plastic bags, she buys them by the 500 ft. roll at cosco.

GrayLensman · See you in another life!!!

Not being a sailor I was thinking he was sailing west. Now sailing east there would be a chance he stopped at Australia. However, I guess it depends on what kind of route he was taking. New Zealand might also have been just as good and more on his track.

Another thing is that there are some small signs that the island does not stay in one place. Such as how did the Beechcraft get there from Africa? So, Desmond could have crashed into it when it was in a different location and, perhaps, he never came close to Australia.

voltsandamps · Gods new Mod.

Depending on a lot of varibles the beechcraft could have island hopped to get to the island. If we knew exactly where the island was located we could make a better determination if that was feasible or not. The D-18S twin beechcraft has pretty good range in its stock configeration and it is also possible to add internal fuel tanks to extend its range as the military did in the pacific during WW2. The army and marine corps used the twin beech for officer transport and light cargo hauling. During WW2 the military built small airfields on many small islands just to enhance that capability. I would not rule it out, on the other hand i would not say it could, too many things we don't know to do either.

Sir Snootch · "Gamers don't sleep. They just nap between levels."

GrayLensman wrote:

Not being a sailor I was thinking he was sailing west. Now sailing east there would be a chance he stopped at Australia. However, I guess it depends on what kind of route he was taking. New Zealand might also have been just as good and more on his track. Another thing is that there are some small signs that the island does not stay in one place. Such as how did the Beechcraft get there from Africa? So, Desmond could have crashed into it when it was in a different location and, perhaps, he never came close to Australia.

That's interesting gray..I have been one of those who have thought about that, but b=never wrote anything down about it moving. I think that it would work, and explain why Fenry told michael exact dirrections to find help. And also said not to worry because he'd never find it again. You figure if it's even moving in the smallest amount (through some prop of jet system) then even at less than 1 MPH they would move enough that if someone who went away for a day, and tried to go back would have trouble finding it at the same Long&Lat.

voltsandamps · Gods new Mod.

unless it blocks radar some how it would have to go like a bat out of he!! to keep from being rediscovered, at one MPH it would only move 24 miles per day, that's not very speedy, only 220 feet per hour, I can crawl that fast wearing handcuffs, and dragging hurley on his surfboard behind me.

Sir Snootch · "Gamers don't sleep. They just nap between levels."

voltsandamps wrote:

unless it blocks radar some how it would have to go like a bat out of he!! to keep from being rediscovered, at one MPH it would only move 24 miles per day, that's not very speedy, only 220 feet per hour, I can crawl that fast wearing handcuffs, and dragging hurley on his surfboard behind me.

That's true, but how many people are really looking for a moving island? I mean if they are moving to avoid just random detection it probably wouldn't take much. Also I know that 1 mph isn't much, I was just making the point that it wouldn't take much to keep them from being found.

voltsandamps · Gods new Mod.

I find the idea of a moving island hard to accept for several reasons. First, if it were actually floating you would feel the motion, even a monster iceberg floating on the water and I'm talking many miles accross and of course many miles deep in the water visibly moves up and down and rocks from side to side. Some of those 'bergs calveing off the glaciers are huge. Second it would require a robust propulsion system to enable steering and overcome the sail effect of the hills(mountains) unless you deliberately sailed downwind. Third I would think the system would generate considerable noise and/or vibration which would be noticeable due to most of the island consisting of rock. Fourth, I can't imagine why you would want a moving island in the first place, I realize it's a very big ocean but sooner or later you would run into something.

GrayLensman · See you in another life!!!

Tried to respond last night but the cable company server was slower than molasses in Siberia.

Even at 24 miles a day this would add up to sizable movement over even just a couple of weeks. And with today's GPS stuff anyone looking for something is looking in a pretty precises place and not nearby. So, even 24 miles might have you looking somewhere that the island is no longer visible from.

But Henry's remark about even God not being able to find the place is also intriguing. As Charlie said, "Guys, where are we?"

Janetjune · it's now or never....

Thought I would jump in here for just a second. I can't picture the island moving. What is propelling it? The island is pretty big and the surroundings don't seem to change. I am referring to the other land across the horizon (what they can see). And how about where Desmonds boat was moored while What's His Name was sneaking out to repair it? Sorry, I don't buy it.

voltsandamps · Gods new Mod.

you are welcome any and every time you are in the neighborhood so feel free to drive by and wave or blow your horn. I have great reservations about the island moving also.

Sir Snootch · "Gamers don't sleep. They just nap between levels."

Janetjune wrote:

Thought I would jump in here for just a second. I can't picture the island moving. What is propelling it? The island is pretty big and the surroundings don't seem to change. I am referring to the other land across the horizon (what they can see). And how about where Desmonds boat was moored while What's His Name was sneaking out to repair it? Sorry, I don't buy it.

JJ..You and Volts have convinced me

I wasn't really thinking it was what was going on, but as a person with a bit to much time during the late night to think about weird stuff I tend to really over think some of these things. It makes sense in the fact that they would be hard to find. But after you stated it I did remember that there is another Island nearby.....speaking of that. If they can see it why are they not curious if there is anyone over there?? Could be that the one they are on is deserted, and the other is full of a shopping center, and a really cool little coffe shop with great crullers.

voltsandamps · Gods new Mod.

As usual with this show the characters never, never, never, do what you would expect them to do, if I had seen another island in the area that would be the first place I would have tried for with the raft or made up another boat and/or raft just for that purpose. I no longer expect any of those knotheads to do the sensible thing. I am not sure what the problem actually is, are the writers trying so hard to spin out the story over a long period of time they keep dancing around the practical things or do they have something else in mind. Result is frustrating as old billy b. hell in my book.

GrayLensman · See you in another life!!!

Whoa!!!! Fill me in on this other island! I don't recall seeing it so let me know when it was sighted.

And it could be part of the same huge moving mass. Just 'cause some water washes over the main plate doesn't mean they aren't connected. Hey, the island moving is way out there but we're all just chattin', right?

And JJ, good to see ya over here!

Sir Snootch · "Gamers don't sleep. They just nap between levels."

GrayLensman wrote:

Whoa!!!! Fill me in on this other island! I don't recall seeing it so let me know when it was sighted. And it could be part of the same huge moving mass. Just 'cause some water washes over the main plate doesn't mean they aren't connected. Hey, the island moving is way out there but we're all just chattin', right? And JJ, good to see ya over here!

If memory serves..the other island was roughly a good hours paddle or more from the beach. It hasn't been shown in a good while I believe the last time we saw it was near the end of season 1.

voltsandamps · Gods new Mod.

One last time to be beating a dead horse. If the silly assed island was indeed floating what would happen to it the first time a tropical cyclone (typhoon?) came a callin', it would be wrapped around something post haste. The only good thing I can see about this theory is it MIGHT explain how the black rock got to where it is now. I would hate to see our losties get seasick when the next major storm arrived.

Sir Snootch · "Gamers don't sleep. They just nap between levels."

voltsandamps wrote:

One last time to be beating a dead horse. If the silly assed island was indeed floating what would happen to it the first time a tropical cyclone (typhoon?) came a callin', it would be wrapped around something post haste. The only good thing I can see about this theory is it MIGHT explain how the black rock got to where it is now. I would hate to see our losties get seasick when the next major storm arrived.

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...Volts point taken, and I digress from the floating island for good.

voltsandamps · Gods new Mod.

On the other hand maybe a floating island would be a good thing, maybe they could sail it back to civilization, mc donalds and hooters and all that good stuff. It would be cheap transportation, wouldn't cost much of anything, and be a very comfortable ride.

Sir Snootch · "Gamers don't sleep. They just nap between levels."

voltsandamps wrote:

On the other hand maybe a floating island would be a good thing, maybe they could sail it back to civilization, mc donalds and hooters and all that good stuff. It would be cheap transportation, wouldn't cost much of anything, and be a very comfortable ride.

Very true..No jet lag, and the view is all window seats

...one problem though...the crew seems to be a bit rough around the edges, and could use a little sensitivity training.

Janetjune · it's now or never....

Hi, Snootch and all. I have been here 1/2 dozen times and couldn't find anyone to talk to. So, that's how I dare show up over there. LOL.

I should have asked Volts about my little problem of getting my email over here. I forgot. I did manage to get it into a folder on my desktop, not that that helps. Sorry, I have changed the subject. I still maintain the island is too big to move or be moving.

Sir Snootch · "Gamers don't sleep. They just nap between levels."

Janetjune wrote:

Hi, Snootch and all. I have been here 1/2 dozen times and couldn't find anyone to talk to. So, that's how I dare show up over there. LOL. I should have asked Volts about my little problem of getting my email over here. I forgot. I did manage to get it into a folder on my desktop, not that that helps. Sorry, I have changed the subject. I still maintain the island is too big to move or be moving.

Hey JJ...I'm actually (sorry) leaving for a bit. Dinner is served

See you soon if you're around. I should be back in an 1/2 hour or so.

voltsandamps · Gods new Mod.

JJ, if you're still around I'm here, I'll be glad to chat with you anytime, I've just missed you on several occasions.

Janetjune · it's now or never....

Volts. Thanks. Read my post need computer help. Snootch is trying to do something, but Idon't know what. He suggested I ask you. I am always around and Snootch should have my email address if he saved it.